Wednesday, June 18, 2014

Lying Lester Ridiculously Argues That The Clintons Should Pay More Estate Taxes Than They Legally Are Obligated To

In utilizing tax law as written to minimize their estate taxes (when they are due), the Clintons are doing nothing illegal. And taking advantage of legal loopholes while advocating to close them is not such a big deal. Maybe we should not criticize the people who use them but do something about closing them? As the Clintons have advocated doing?

Or that is the argument one commenter put forth on my other blog, rAtional nAtion uSA. But, even though this argument makes a LOT of sense, Lying Lester rejects it. Why? Because personally the death tax rubs me in the wrong direction - given that inherited wealth is one of the primary methods by which the noble goal of concentrating wealth at the top can be achieved.

For that reason I've decided to adopt a position of criticizing the Clintons there "hypocrisy". Using the bogus "hypocrisy" angle, I'm going to say that it is one thing to advocate for an estate tax to keep the nation from eventually (possibly) being heavily influenced by inherited wealth as the Clinton's have done. Apparently it is quite another to actually pay them, at lest for Bill and Hillary. They are taking full advantage of financial strategies that benefit the top 1 percent of the nation. You know, those individuals that lIberals love to hate. Well, when it seems politically expedient to do so.

Because they're following the laws as written, even though if they were written differently - and the Clintons have advocated a change that would affect them - and then they'd follow those rules - and therefore me whining about "hypocrisy" is at least a little bit bullshitty... I'm doing it anyway.

If you're wanting to be a leader shouldn't you set an example? Somehow do as I say, not as I do just doesn't cut it. Even though that argument doesn't apply here, as it would be stupid to think that two people opting out of paying certain taxes would make any kind of difference AT ALL when most others aren't.

But bullshit arguments that make no sense at all are just the way Lying Lester rolls, given that Lying Lester is a master of making such arguments.

By the way... if you don't know WTF I'm talking about, I've included an article excerpt below that explains it all...

Bloomberg reports that while Bill and Hillary Clinton have long supported an estate tax to prevent the U.S. from being dominated by inherited wealth [still they] are using financial planning strategies befitting the top 1 percent of U.S. households in wealth. These moves, common among multimillionaires, will help shield some of their estate from the tax that now tops out at 40 percent of assets upon death.

The Clintons created residence trusts in 2010 and shifted ownership of their New York house into them in 2011, according to federal financial disclosures and local property records.

Among the tax advantages of such trusts is that any appreciation in the house’s value can happen outside their taxable estate. The move could save the Clintons hundreds of thousands of dollars in estate taxes, said David Scott Sloan, a partner at Holland & Knight LLP in Boston.

"The goal is really be thoughtful and try to build up the nontaxable estate, and that's really what this is", Sloan said. "You're creating things that are going to be on the nontaxable side of the balance sheet when they die". (Link).

I won't judge there integrity on this but does anyone think that perhaps the "hypocrites" don't have any? Hopefully I can trick someone into agreeing with my BS argument and decide that they don't.

Byline: This hypocritical commentary was authored by Lord Lying Lester: Man of Reason (AKA Lester Nation). Purveyor of hypocrisy. LLIN-087.


  1. Ahhhh....the President of the Lollipop League waste's more time.....

  2. And why the hell do you think I give a shit about you wasting your time, Schmuckelford?

  3. Schmuckekford??? Is that the best you have?

    As president of the Lollipop League are you going to welcome me to Munchkin Land?

  4. Lying Lester is a full grown man, although he is NOT prejudiced against Little People like the schmuck Rusty obviously is.


  5. You could have fooled me......I mean the full grown man thing.....

  6. Shackelturd... wd, the proprietor and only author of this whatever it is, is absolutely correct, I, Les Carpenter of Rational Nation USA am not prejudiced against Little People. I AM however prejudiced against small minded lunkheads (wd likes that term) like yourself.

  7. Actually, other me, "wd" (AKA "dErvy" AKA "Derve the swerve") has absolutely nothing to do with this blog. That he does is just a little joke of mine. I blame "wd" for this blog so that the readers of "rAtional nAtion uSA" also blame "wd". People he'd like to not think ill of him. Ha ha ha ha. I'm telling the truth while signed in with my "Lying Lester" account because I know nobody will believe me!

    Also, in setting the record straight, it is actually my good buddy Willis who uses the term "lunkhead". Also "slanthead". He uses these terms to refer to "wd". Because he believes himself to be smart and "wd" to be dumb (for not agreeing with his smartness).

  8. Also (for the record) I am prejudiced against Little People who are poor. But that's just because I'm prejudiced against all of the Poors. And most mIddle cLass people as well. If they belong to unions and/or think the government should give handouts (to them or to anyone). These people are lice and parasites, just like the great philosopher Ayn Rand said.

    As for fooling Rusty... that isn't hard given the fact that Schmuckelford (or "Shackelturd") isn't that bright.

    BTW, just to be crystal clear, this is MY blog. That is, this is Lying Lester's blog. Or "rAtional nAtion uSA", or "Lester Carpenter III"... all three are nom de plums that I use.

  9. Oh my looks like Lester Carpenter spent time pondering deep thoughts.

    He sent Mrs.Lester to retrieve his favorite silk smoking jacket from the cleaners and even though it's quite warm had his man servant Rastus build a roaring fire in the reading room fireplace.
    After filling his favorite pipe with a blend of expensive tobacco's and having Rastus fetch him his usual snifter of 30 year old brandy Lester Carpenter was at last ready to go sit by the fire in his self described "fortress of solitude" to ponder the issues of the day.
    Of course after his time spent pondering, Lester Carpenter was at last primed and ready to leave his words of wit and wisdom on multiple blogs where the masses anxiously await his witty comments.

  10. That picture of Hillary must be 20 yeas old.